I would suggest that you pick a method and you just go with it. So sorry about your brain tumor! I’ve been doing 1/2 cup flour, and 1/4 cup water. I discuss assessing the bulk fermentation above. Not only because we believe it’s the healthiest way, but because we want to give Him glory for creating good food as the best medicine! When I use my Dutch over for bread baking I notice the bottom gets really dark and hard to cut through, but when I use my Emile Henry clay pan I don’t have this issue. Thank you Wardee! If you live in a humid environment, your dough may look soupier. I followed the directions EXACTLY in the Sourdough A-Z book for the Honey Whole Wheat bread – sponge overnight – first raise took 6 hours to get doubled – second raise went 3 hours and just barely got to the top of the pan. This tactic also dovetails to the advice that hotter ovens equal lighter sourdough. Less time = less sour. HELP! So, now that you know sourdough does not have to be sour… why not get started? Should I skip a feeding and see what happens? I should have proofread my comment above. But keep going! So, I’ll have to re-read my post, but I was not trying to use the two phrases interchangeably. You’re an inspiration to me on our path to healthy eating! But don’t despair — this happens to the best of us! Originally I was feeding once a day in a very warm environment (90+) and my starter rose in the wide mouth glass jar like crazy. Otherwise, expect something in about a week. LOL. Use more starter. You can play with the amounts of water/flour that you feed your starter, and see how it does. On average, it seems that most sourdough bread recipes use about 1/2 cup of starter (my sourdough bread recipe uses 1/2 cup of active starter). Can I re shape it again after cold proofed? If adjust a recipe to add more starter, you should lessen the amount of water or liquid. Buy spring or distilled water. Is this a common problem? I know it’s a bummer to have to buy water, but while you are in the building/strengthening phase, it might help. Bread flour, all-purpose flour, whole wheat flour vary from brand to brand in their protein content and overall makeup. Hi JT! Question for you – do you feed your starter exclusively with organic or rye flour? Can I use a metal spoon to stir it? Bubbling is a sign that the healthy organisms are happy and proliferating — and yes, they do like warmth, although I would think placing it in the full sun might be too warm. I am in the midst of using your recipe, so I am already worrying about my poor experience with using parchment paper. I use a baking stone and parchment. Grey or brownish hues in a starter are generally normal and not a cause for concern. It lasts through many loaves and feedings. If your starter is not doubling in 4 to 6 hours, you should spend some time strengthening it. Doughs that contain a lot of moisture tend to spread more than dryer doughs, so that could be the culprit. This gluten-free recipe from King Arthur flour looks promising. Unlike yeast-leavened doughs, which often call for letting the dough rise till it doubles (or more) in volume, with sourdoughs, you don’t want it to rise so high. As the wild organisms consume the simple sugars in flour, they produce acids. . Regular AP flour was still bothering my stomach. Both of these are good signs your starter is ready, but in my experience, #1 is a more reliable test than #2. I can at least make very nutritious pancakes for my family now…I love the idea of basically having pancake batter always ready, too. Longer souring time, warmer temperatures, don’t poor off the hooch, don’t use baking soda, and use less starter. I usually just stir the skin back in. I will add all of the below info up above in the post for future reference. Regarding loaves being too moist, I think it is simply a matter of reducing the amount of water. If you can embrace the failures, learn from your mistakes, and make changes based on your results, you will find success. Thank you for such an informative article! Barbara — Yes, it will take longer to rise, but it will still rise. Then store some of your starter in the fridge until next time. Thanks so much! Yes, sourdough is sour, but the baker has some control over just how sour his or her sourdough bread tastes. Breadopedia.com is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com. My sour dough doesn’t rise after shaping after proofing. April — How long has it been now that you’ve had it since your friend gave it to you? It sounds like your starter is super active, and ready to go! People love incorporating rye and whole wheat flours into their breads mostly for health reasons but also for flavor. I’m hoping the starter will revive. The culture worked on the milk, just at a slower rate. I’m Wardee Harmon, and I’m the author of the Complete Idiot’s Guide to Fermenting Foods and the lead teacher for Traditional Cooking School’s Bible-based cooking program. I got my starter from “Homestead and Chill” with great results. Yes! I use my mother’s peasant bread recipe but you can use any bread recipe you like, so long as you have the weight measurements. I will try more reg feedings and see what happens. Thank you. These six tips will help you ensure that your sourdough baked goods are pleasantly tangy, rather than overly sour — or perhaps not sour at all! Courtney — There’s no need to toss it. Shorter colder proof. It doesn’t have to be down to decimal point accuracy, but it needs to be close for best results. Sometimes. , Jessica — Thanks! Hi Karin! Thank you Wardee. A common cause of dense sourdough bread is that the sourdough starter isn’t mature. Of course if you’d rather start off with a fantastic, mature starter, from the start (see what I did there?) If I pour off half of my starter before I feed it I am assuming add the 1/2 cup flour and 1/4 cup water to the “discard” and give to them? My starter doesn’t get bubbly and double in size unless I set it out in the sun. If you love this recipe, please consider giving it a star rating when you post a comment. It didn’t die — but it did have trouble. Is that weird? Miles. Opinions vary on what percentage increase is optimal. Your support means a great deal to me. (Autolyse, if you are unfamiliar, is the process of mixing the flour and water together and letting it sit for a period of time before adding the salt and the starter, a technique many sourdough bread bakers believe is beneficial for a number of reasons including dough extensibility/gluten development, crust color, and flavor.).
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